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The Episcopal Church Presiding Bishop Said What?

5/21/2013

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The ELCA is in full communion with the Episcopal Church.

Take a few minutes to read what Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church, Katharine Jefferts Schori, said in a recent sermon.  Here is a report about the presiding bishop's message, and here is the complete sermon.


How about a sneak peak? The Episcopal Church's Presiding Bishop instructed:
  • Based on Acts 16, Paul was blind to what God was doing when he exorcised the demon from a slave girl.
  • Paul deprives the demonically possessed slave girl "of her gift of spiritual awareness."
  • The leader of the Episcopal Church then says, "Paul can’t abide something he won’t see as beautiful or holy, so he tries to destroy it.  It gets him thrown in prison.  That’s pretty much where he’s put himself by his own refusal to recognize that she, too, shares in God’s nature, just as much as he does – maybe more so!,”

There is more said by the Presiding Episcopal Bishop so please read the above links. 


As mentioned above, the ELCA is in full communion with the Episcopal Church.  The ELCA's official website explains what 'full communion' means. It says:

'Full communion' means a mutual recognition that the partner churches hold 'the essentials of the Christian faith' within the catholic and apostolic tradition. In such a relationship, according to 'Called to Common Mission,' neither church 'seeks to remake the other in its own image, but each is open to the gifts of the other as it seeks to be faithful to Christ and his mission. They are together committed to a visible unity in the church's mission to proclaim the Word and administer the Sacraments' ('Called to Common Mission,' paragraph 2).

Full communion describes a relationship in which the partner churches fully recognize each other as part of the whole Church of Jesus Christ and seek to cooperate with each other in witness, life, and service. Mutual recognition of Baptism and a sharing of the Lord's Supper, allowing for joint worship and an exchangeability of members, also are part of a relationship of full communion." (see here)



5 Comments
Didaskalos
5/21/2013 08:58:44 pm

Speaking of demonic doctrines, the ELCA, and the Episcopal Church,

[2 Cor. 6] 14 "Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? 15 What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? 16 What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said,

“I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them,
and I will be their God,
and they shall be my people.
17 Therefore go out from their midst,
and be separate from them, says the Lord,
and touch no unclean thing;
then I will welcome you,
18 and I will be a father to you,
and you shall be sons and daughters to me,
says the Lord Almighty.”

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Kathy Suarez
5/22/2013 03:38:03 am

Wow. I am in shock. This may be worse than anything I have seen from the ELCA, and that's saying a lot.

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Didaskalos link
5/24/2013 12:59:55 pm

St. Paul Speaks!
Thursday, May 23, 2013
Dear Katharine,

Two days ago I was taking an afternoon tea break with St. Peter and he asked if I had heard the latest scuttlebutt from Earth. He then told me about your novel interpretation of the exorcism recorded in the Book of Acts. I know you may be dubious about an electronic dispatch from the other side of death, but the sermon you preached in Venezuela makes clear that you consider the ancient practice of fortune-telling a “gift of spiritual awareness.” I trust, then, that this message should pose no serious challenges to your credulity.

I am astonished, Katharine, by your speculation that I felt threatened by a tormented and theatrical demoniac. When one has faced down a shouting mob of enraged goddess worshipers, enduring one voluble fortune-teller is fairly simple. I did, after all, tolerate many days of hectoring before responding to her. A non-occluded reading of St. Luke’s deadpan text leads to this understanding: As a follower of Jesus, I received his gift of his authority over principalities and powers (as they were understood before the rise of multinational corporations). I rebuked those powers and liberated a slave — emotionally, physically, spiritually. I was imprisoned not for my insufficient commitment to spiritual diversity but for depriving oppressors of their slave. She is with me here in eternity. I tried to tell her about your sermon but I had to stop midway because she was laughing to the point of tears.

Katharine, the next time you encounter someone who does not live up to your principles — a lobbyist for the Republican Party, a person who has left the Episcopal Church, or even a foolish old Apostle in the pages of Scripture — please try something risky: pray for that person, aloud and on the spot. Ask the holy and undivided Trinity to shower that person with grace and mercy. Or, in keeping with your devotion to inclusivity, ask that person to pray for you. Either way, I know your horizons will be broadened.

Paul, servant of Christ
(Channeled by Douglas LeBlanc)
http://livingchurch.org/st-paul-speaks

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Brent
5/28/2013 10:39:08 am

Rev. Katherine Jefferts Schori wrongly assumes that, because the slave girl identified Paul and his companions as "servants of the Most High God, who are telling you the way to be saved" (which, of course, was true), her "spirit of divination" was some good spirit or natural talent. The bishop is apparently unaware of other accounts in Scripture where a spirit explicitly identified as a demon or unclean spirit knows that Jesus is the Son of God. (e.g., Mark 1:23-27; Mark 5:1-15; Luke 4:41).

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Brent
5/29/2013 06:10:33 am

Even if one grants that some clairvoyant or psychic ablilty might be a natural (though extraordinary) human ability, surely fortune-telling is out of the question as being such. The Apostles were given authority to cast out evil spirits (Matt. 10:1; Mark 6:7,13; Mark 16:17), not to deprive people of their natural abilities.

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